[Pak-Media] Re: Bin Laden videos fail to prove US claims

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"When a Super-Power is shit scared of one lone man.......it is no longer a Super-Power"...............



--- On Sat, 5/7/11, chaudry <k_w572001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: chaudry <k_w572001@yahoo.com>
Subject: [MuslimIntelligencer] Bin Laden videos fail to prove US claims
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Sat May 7, 2011 6:4PM

Videos released by the Pentagon to allay uncertainty about circumstances of Osama bin Laden's death, fails to support US claim that the al-Qaeda leader was killed in Pakistan last week.


US President Barack Obama claimed that bin Laden was killed by US forces on May 1 in a hiding compound in Pakistan, resisting while unarmed. 

Washington claims that during US raid last Monday, five videos were seized at the secret compound in Pakistan where bin Laden was hiding. 

On Saturday the Pentagon released some of the videos in an attempt to quell doubts about bin Landen's death. 

In the first home videos reportedly filmed in October or November 2010, bin Laden who is wearing a white skullcap and white robes, speaks to the camera in the style of his previous video messages. 

There is no audio on the film, but Pentagon officials claim it was a message to the US. 

In another video, bin Laden is seen watching a program about himself on Arabic language television. 

There are no indications in the videos to prove that they were filmed in the secret compound where bin Laden was killed. The footages also fail to prove that the notorious al-Qaeda leader was alive until May 1. 

Following Obama's announcement, a US official said that bin Laden's body was abruptly buried at sea, falsely boasting that his hasty burial was in accordance with the Islamic law, requiring burial within 24 hours of death. 

However, burial at sea is not an Islamic practice and Islam does not specify a timeframe for burial. 

US officials also claimed that their decision to give bin Laden a sea burial was made because no country would accept his remains, without elaborating on which countries were actually contacted on the matter. 

Analysts, however, have raised serious questions as to why US officials did not allow for the application of a DNA test to officially confirm the identity of the corpse before the quick sea burial. Although officials claimed that DNA obtained from the body confirmed that he was actually Osama bin Laden. 
(Press tv)


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[Pak-Media] Pakistan a very resilient place

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FYI, soon
Bharati PM Singh will be visiting Afghanistan. Since there are strong signs of US pulling their troops out of Afghanistan sooner then world anticipating.

So this tells me India is all nervous now since they were expecting US will "cut sling" Pakistan and its not happening.

Pls note Indian media over spent their budget during OBL Saga just to proof Pakistan is a fail state.

Pakistan is a very resilient place only bad thing they have is weak failed and corrupt leadership.

Many are confident. Including great minds of the world that Imran Khan can turn Pakistan around and trust me he will. His track record of accomplishment we all are aware of it.

India itching to destroy the image of Pakistan prior to up coming elections of Pakistan. Because India clearly knows the capabilities of Imran Khan once he is elected no body can stop Pakistan from becoming best emerging market in the world.

Imran Khan will fix what needs fixing not only in Pakistan also in the region.

Now we know why all this nervousness.

nndnn

Mak

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[Pak-Media] Every Day is Mother's Day in ISLAM...

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Every Day is Mother's Day in ISLAM

One day a man came to see the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam). It seemed that he was trying to solve something but couldn't quite work it out. So he asked the Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam). ''Tell me, O Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam)'' I have many relatives and many friends whom I love, and whom I wish to care for and help. But I often find it difficult to decide which of them has the greatest claim upon me? Which of them should come first?'' The Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) replied immediately, ''Your mother should come first and before all others.''

The man was very pleased to have this clear guidance from the Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam). But of course there were all his other relatives and his friends, so he asked ''and after my mother, who has the greatest claim upon me?'' The Prophet's (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) reply this second time surprised him. ''Your mother!'' he said again.

The man wondered why the Prophet was (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) repeating himself. Perhaps (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) he had not spoken clearly, the man thought, so he asked the question again, ''What I want to know is, after my mother, who has the greatest claim upon me? Again the Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam)  said ''your mother!''

Your mother, your mother, your mother!

The Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) had now said it three times. Slowly, the man realized why he had done so. ''The Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) means that my mother is extremely important, so much so that my duty to her must be stressed over and over again. Even so, the man's thoughts ran on, ''what about all the others I love and wish to care for?'' Still uncertain and wanting to know more, he once again turned to the Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) and said, ''and after my mother, who comes after her? Is there anyone besides her?'' The Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) then replied ''after your mother, your father.'' ''And then?'' asked the man. ''Then people who are nearest to you,'' said the Prophet (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam). 


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RE: [Pak-Media] MD PTV ki panchon ghee me

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How much share in Advertisement? He is employee or owner of the PTV?
Aziz Mohmand

To: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com
From: alishahzad_75@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 16:13:12 +0000
Subject: [Pak-Media] MD PTV ki panchon ghee me

 
Dear friends md ptv is drawing millons in the name of salary and more important thing is that he earned 9 carores in world cup matches ,cos he had lions share in the advirtisement,cool dude , if the ptv will be run in same way it will become soo pakistan railway.


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RE: [Pak-Media] OBL Killing Proved 5 Things

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According to a wellknown Journalist, Seymour Hersh, American Special Forces have been Collaborating with Isreal's Elite Counter Terrorism unit Sayeret Maktal (which specializes in ASSASSINATIONS) this hegemony between America and Israerl developed durng REAGAN Era and has been growing more so after the collaborative  effort which culminasted as the destruction of Workd Trade Center  developed by NEOCONS (Project for New American Century). After 911, Pakistan was threatened by Assassins like Richard Armitage (who was a former U.S. Navy Seal and an expert in assassinations) to acquire four Military Bases [ Jacobabad, Shamsi, Dilbandan, abnd Pasni - all in Baluchistan] for fiture Operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan till its "TAP" Pipeline was materialized, and for this purpose Pakistani Military folks were turned into Bounty Hunters (as MUSH admitted in his book "IN THE LINE OF FIRE," that he earned Miillions of Dollars as Bounty Hunter, by catching 672 innocent Muslims in Pakistan and delivering 369 to "Uncle Bush',s" Gulag at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a HELL on Earth created for Torturing & Killing alleged Muslims victims.  Prior to Mush, Benazir Bhutto, and Nawaz Sharif also earned Bouties, thus selling their souls to the DEVIL.

When so-called Muslims do not practice ISLAM for which Allah provided us Quran [See Surah a-Maida (Ayat # 51, 57 and 82}] as a Book of Guidance, the result is DOOM!). During this Bounty Hunting season, other Munfiqs also wished to reap the harvest and were corrupted to willingly become TRAITORS, and buy a one-way ticket to HELL!, while some passing through virtual Paradise in London or in America.

 

Bashir A. Syed

Retired Aerospace Physicist

 

From: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Meekalahmed2@aol.com
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Subject: [Pak-Media] OBL Killing Proved 5 Things

 

 

By Gulshan Ara
The killing of Osama bin Laden (OBL) has proved five things—1) Bin Laden
lived like a state guest, 2) Pakistan's military is either involved or
incompetent in protecting its guest, 3) CIA out-smarted the ISI in the spy war,
4) Pakistan's determination to never come out of its typical state of
denial, and 5) Pashtuns were wrongly labeled as bin Laden's hosts in mountainous
tribal regions.
That bin Laden was a state guest is clear from his life style. Few
Pakistanis can afford accommodations in Pakistan's summer stations like Abbottabad
or Murree with a troupe of wives, children, couriers, servants, and SUVs.
No one of his stature on this planet can afford a secret life for 10 long
years without leaving traces until and unless state provides that privacy.
In this age of technology, many would agree that none can afford covering
asses under the naughty radars. Access to organic veges, chickens, home grown
rabbits, fresh olives, Arabian dates, milk of goats and cows and a life
full of sex—imagine it. Only a state guest and not the guest of an illiterate
Pashtun tribesman can enjoy such a hospitality.
OBL's raided accommodation is at a stone's throw from Pakistan's military
academy at Kakul which provides training to commissioned officers, in a
town known as military city. It has two regiments and one medical corps. It's
the only city where uniformed men are clearly visible in civilian markets,
transport, on roads and streets. They no more roam on the streets of
Lahore, Peshawar or Multan. While many question why OBL would have opted for
living in Abbottabad, the hosts' decision of providing him a house there was
perfect. Its residents are often non-locals and have lesser level of
socialization. The language, ethnic background and class association are major
barriers that keep the residents away from one another. In a street of seven
houses, the possibility is that one resident may be a local, the second from
Kohistan, third from Peshawar, fourth from Lahore, and the next neighbor
can be a rich Afghan refugee or a tribal elder. It's again very much
possible that one neighbor might have a military background, the other a
businessman, a professor and yet another might be one making money in real estate.
They would also speak different languages ranging from Hindko, Urdu,
Pashto, Punjabi, to Kohistani and even Dari (Afghan version of Farsi). A
state-run institute can easily monitor streets and markets of such a diverse town
as compared to a city of identical backgrounds.
Bringing OBL from his last reported location, Tora Bora in Afghanistan in
2001, to Abbottabad is a task that can hardly be attributed to an
individual or a tribe or a group. In a country like Pakistan where military is the
first, last and the lonely force visible on a security gallery, no one else
can dare getting close to OBL and his associates. His life style, sense of
confidence, proximity with military bases, and living without armed guards—
all show that OBL believed he was in safe hands.
The nature of operation is a shame for ISI and Pakistan's security
mechanism. First, the ISI didn't prove its trustworthiness among its American
counterparts. CIA chief Leon Panetta said Pakistan would have jeopardized the
raid and were therefore kept in the dark. Second, it was considered as an
ally of the terrorists and hence CIA made efforts to keep it secret from the
ISI. The winner of the spy war was no doubt CIA and not the ISI. Its head
General Shuja Pasha should resign to reduce the level of 'embarrassment'
and acknowledge his failure. Third, the operation has clearly passed on a
message to Pakistanis that their spy agency had juxtaposed its interests with
those of the bad guys on the Earth.
Those who have still doubts they need to wait when Mullah Omar, after a
bit of ferreting, is recovered from Quetta cantonment and OBL's lieutenant
Aiman al-Zawahiri from some cool summer station near a military base in
coming months or years.
Living in a 'state of denial' is epidemic in Pakistan. Its leaders,
military and civilian, mediamen, and representatives of state have a big 'no'
for facts. Ask them Pakistan has become a terror hub, and they will say it
is a safe place for investment. Chief of Army Staff General Kayani announced
in Abbottabad eight days before OBL's killing that Pakistan armed forces
had broken the back of militants. He was calling the shots just 800 yards
away from OBL's complex.
While the world was questioning ISI's role, doubting it as a protector of
OBL, Prime Minister Gilani was telling in Paris, "world shares blame for
failure on bin Laden".
The whole world, including mainstream Muslim Umma and religious clerics,
call OBL a terrorist but attorneys in Peshawar and Abbottabad, columnists,
TV show hosts and guests praise him as a hero and consider the raid on OBL's
house was violation of Pakistan's sovereignty.
Like Americans, Pashtuns in general and tribals in particular, came out
victorious in the OBL saga. He was not killed in the mountains of Pashtuns
but in a place controlled and administered by Pakistan military. Islamabad
did its best telling the world OBL is the guest of conservative, hard
fighting Pashtuns in their tough terrain all these years.
Never in history, military of a country stigmatized its own co-citizens
but in Pakistan, the smaller nations--Pashtun, Sindhi and Baloch are being
presented as bad guys in the country's Punjab-dominated security apparatus.
A huge relief for Pashtuns and shame for those who think OBL's agenda will
make the country prosperous. Pashtuns were pleading from day one that they
were being used in the War on Terror. OBL's presence in a military city of
Pakistan also lent weight to Kabul's calls that terrorists were across the
border in their safe havens—or 'hands'?—in main cities.

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[Pak-Media] MD PTV ki panchon ghee me

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Dear friends md ptv is drawing millons in the name of salary and more important thing is that he earned 9 carores in world cup matches ,cos he had lions share in the advirtisement,cool dude , if the ptv will be run in same way it will become soo pakistan railway.

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[Pak-Media] Article From Yvonne Ridleyy-- Feel Free To Use

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Britain must not support US-style justice
By Yvonne Ridley
 There are a number of men being held without charge or trial in Britain's own version of Guantanamo Bay.
 And while David Cameron's government is willing to condemn the existence of this boil on the face of human rights in occupied Cuba it remains silent about those being held in Wiltshire's Long Lartin prison.
 Most of them are fighting extradition to the US … a fight that has become even more urgent now that we have all seen US justice in action in recent days.
 US justice means extrajudicial killings, targeted assassinations and doing away with the need for a fair trial: any trial for that matter.
 I would hope, and expect, all of their legal teams now, as a matter of urgency, submit new appeals on behalf of their clients to stop extradition immediately to a country that simply cannot deal justly with those it suspects of terrorism.
 Can anyone really give guarantees these men will not be put up against a wall and shot in the back of the head the moment they arrive on US soil?
 Some of the men I'm talking about have been held since before 9/11 and one includes Saudi-born Khalid al-Fawwaz who has endured this legal limbo now for more than 12 years.
 US intelligence says he is accused of conspiring with Osama bin Laden in the bombings of two US embassies. This may be true, I don't know and neither do any of us until he is put through a fair trial. One thing is for sure – a key witness is now lying at the bottom of the ocean in a weighted-down body bag.
  Prosecutors in New York have now charged Fawwaz with helping al-Qaida to orchestrate the 1998 car bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed 224 people.
  A letter from a lawyer seeking to be appointed as Fawwaz's US defence counsel said: "He [Fawwaz] anticipates extradition from the United Kingdom to the United States within the next few months to face these charges."
The lawyer, David Kirby, told Reuters that he had been in touch with Fawwaz's UK lawyers, who he said had told him they had exhausted all efforts to fight his extradition, and he could arrive in the US in the next few weeks.
 In a move regarded as sinister by some, Kirby's request to be appointed as Fawwaz's US defence lawyer has been denied by New York Judge Lewis Kaplan of Manhattan federal court. He told him to reapply once Fawwaz arrives … so, no guarantees Fawwaz is going to even get legal representation!
 If Fawwaz is already being denied a lawyer before he arrives to the US does this mean they're going to fast track him Osama-style to execution?
 As I say, I've no idea if Fawwaz is guilty or not – that should be determined in a fair trial but the reality is such things do not exist in the current incendiary climate of America.
 What I do know is that he was arrested in 1998, after moving to London in the 1990s from Kenya with his family. In the UK he is alleged to have established an organisation called the Advice and Reformation Committee, a political group supposedly headed by Bin Laden that was said to be campaigning for peaceful reform in Saudi Arabia.
 US intelligence says Bin Laden, through Fawwaz, published several threats against the US in the 1990s for keeping troops in the Kingdom.
 Fawwaz has always denied any involvement with Bin Laden and rejected allegations that the committee was a British arm of al-Qaida.
Now that US Navy Seals have assassinated a potential key witness - on the orders of their Commander in Chief Barack Obama - the defence has been denied a major opportunity.
 Evidence supplied by other witnesses has been done so under torture and is therefore unreliable and inadmissible in most courts of law around the world.
 Ahmed Ghailani, a former bodyguard for Bin Laden, was sentenced to life in prison in January over the embassy bombings, following a six-week trial in Manhattan. He was the first former Guantánamo Bay detainee to face a civilian trial in the US and had undoubtedly endured torture en route to the dock.
 Of course before he had his trial he was captured in 2004 in Pakistan after a battle with government troops and then sold like a commodity to US intelligence to be tortured. Unsurprisingly, he was later found guilty of being part of the plot in which hundreds of were killed in twin bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
 Four co-defendants of Ghailani were convicted of all charges, including joining an al-Qaida conspiracy to kill US nationals, during a 2001 trial in New York. All of this during a period when the use of torture was sanctioned and signed off by the then US President George W Bush and his cabal of neocons like Donald Rumsfeld.
  It is worth remembering that both of these remnants of the US Administration, that launched the now discredited War on Terror, have to be careful where they travel for fear they could end up in a court of law to answer for their sanctioning of torture and crimes against humanity.
  In the light of recent events in Abbottabad, Pakistan every civilized country in the world must now suspend extradition proceedings with the USA and look for an alternative … may be even The Hague.
 Britain's controversial extradition treaty with the US was brokered by a slavish Tony Blair Government and is deeply unpopular with British people, certainly no other country in the world signed such a deal which threatened sovereignty - it now needs to be scrapped by Cameron's government soonest.
 I don't know the details of the evidence against the men in Long Lartin, men like Khalid al Fawwaz, but I do know every one of them would welcome his day in court – an open court where justice is seen to be done and where they have a right to a defence.
 If we start handing over UK citizens and foreign nationals to a country that has no respect for international law, the Geneva and Vienna Conventions, and calls targeted assassination "justice" then we too become lawless by association.
 * British journalist Yvonne Ridley is a patron of Cageprisoners - www.cageprisoners.com

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