Hi,
I am not a Christian (actually I do not follow any religion despite being born into a Hindu household).
However, I doubt Kate (or any Christian woman) has to wear the veil everytime she goes out in public, unlike the veil that you connect with Muslim women. Perhaps there is no other religion apart from Islam which insists on the veil being a permament fixture on women.
In addition, your argument is defeated in the literal sense because you mention that Kate's father is giving her away to Harry, when it was William who was marrying her. Again, this shows that your email was probably a knee jerk reaction to all the media attention that the wedding was getting, and that you couldn't care less what the facts were as long as there was some apparent hypocrisy going on in western societies. When clearly there was none in this instance. Your "expertise" as a journalist should have prompted you to at least give a second reading to your email before sending it off.
In fact, I will stick my neck out with this one and say that your arguments are just your own reaction to the fact that for decades now, societies have complained against several proven incidents of women abuse in Islamic cultures. And so, you chose to hang on to any thread of apparent hypocrisy.
But to refute your argument about "women as property", women are by and large free to marry any person they chose in most cultures. I will not say that I have full knowledge of weddings of any religion/culture but the Christian act of the father giving away the bride to the groom is more likely to be a form of blessing given by elders who have raised their children and are now happy to see them start a new family and carry on the values of good parenting.
I distance myself from religiously motivated abuse of women, which happens in Hinduism as well - I am not a hypocrite, but you also need to realise this perhaps.
regards
Bibhash


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The Royal Wedding



A Muslim woman is oppressed when she wears the veil, what about a Christian woman? Is Kate not oppressed for wearing a veil?! and is her value not diminished by her father giving her away to Harry as if she was some property!

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Such twisted thoughts can come only from people who are blind to the Truth.  Evil people help only those who fill their pockets with loot.Ordinary innocent people are always the losers in the games of Evil authoritarian regimes whether they use carrots of trade or sticks of bullets, it does not matter.Evil always wins whether it is India,Pakistan,China or somewhere else.Justice is only for the powerful and rich, who practice evil day in and day out, and then bury their evil deeds writing fancy thoughts. 

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On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Rami Ranger <rami@sunmark.co.uk> wrote:

When we start trading goods, we then stop trading bullets.

China is 10 times more powerful than India, but the Chinese prefer to trade goods with India rather than bullets in order to benefit their ordinary people.

Unfortunately, some prefer to trade bullets to benefit a few. 

 Let's stop biting our noses to spite our faces.

When we do not help others, then we also do not help ourselves.          

 

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Subject: Media Tribe> News Urdu/English/Pic--Pak-India trade talks encourages Saarc business community

 

 

Pak-India trade talks encourages Saarc business community

Land routes of boost economy, textile and cement sector major beneficiaries

Critical Saarc meeting scheduled in Dhaka on May 16, Permanent HQ at Pakistan

 

 

Islamabad: April 30

 

SAARC Chamber of Commerce and Industry has termed the 5th round of secretary-level talks between Pakistan and India to push commercial ties a step in the right direction.

 

Local business community as well as traders across the Saarc region are very encouraged by the development, it said.

 

This bold initiative after successful cricket diplomacy was needed because the other countries of the grouping cannot grow unless relations are normalised between the two most important nations, said Vice President Saarc CCI Iftikhar Ali Malik.

 

Speaking at a meeting here at Saarc Secretariat, he said that Pakistan should accord Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India while they should remove barriers to create an enabling environment for trade.

 

The two countries also need to discuss a bilateral preferential treaty to boost economic growth aimed at reducing poverty, he said adding that only economic engagement can bar undesirable conflicts.

 

Iftikhar Ali Malik said that Pakistan and India should develop more routes for passengers and freight traffic to build trust. It will boost Pakistan's economy with textile and cement sector major beneficiary which is the backbone of our economy and largest urban employment provider, he said.

 

He welcome the understandings reached during the talks and lauded the decision of the negotiators to boost engagement between the private sectors of the two countries which will go a long way to improve confidence level, dispel misunderstandings and allay misapprehensions.

 

Malik demanded to include private sector representatives in the group of experts to trade electricity, petroleum products, Bt. cotton seeds etc, adding that we should share energy, water, research and commodities.

 

He informed that he would lead a 40-member delegation of Dhaka to participate in Saarc CCI meeting scheduled on May 16 to find out ways to increase intra-Saarc trade which is presently below 5 per cent.

 

"We are will meet president of prime minister of Bangladesh with to boost bilateral trade and cooperation," he said.

 

 Iftikhar Ali Malik further said that it has been decided to establish permanent head quarter of Saarc CCI in Islamabad.

 

At the occasion, Malik Sohail Hussain, Chairman Media, FPCCI said that Pakistan and India should help develop each other so that who region could be developed which is home to majority of global population.

 

No spectacular decisions were made in talks due to political differences but the move will help improve the environment to achieve greater goal of prosperity, he said.

 

Poverty reduction is impossible until normalisation of relations so that they can spend properly on health and education, he said adding that cordial relations are in the interest of all stakeholders, said Malik Sohail.

 

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I couldn't agree with Mr. Bashir Syed More.  Mr. Meekal has surely exhibited severe Limited Knowledge. The scenario i have given in my Email below is closer to the truth than 99.999% of the people even know as they have crossed certain boundaries that are now Ir-reversible. For instance USA having scrapped the Graham-Rudman law have totally exposed themselves to the following chain of events and thanks Mainly to Mr. Bush Jr. and Then Obama who have ensured that USA will Default and Finally Break-Up.  Lets Back Track a bit. USA "WAS" a Super Power both economically and Technologically 30 years back. Now in Both  Fields China has over taken it. In 2007 China Shot Down one American Satellite and another in 2010. Showing their Supremacy in Space. By Lifting the Debt Ceiling the Congress and Senate are Just playing Politics and showing "No" care for the Average American. The Effects will be Felt by the Middle And Poor Classes as they are "ALWAYS" the Ones
to suffer as most are Blacks , Hispanics , Asians and Africans. Americans earning US$ 60,000 p.a. and Below will be the Hardest hit. The Falling Dollar Value will increase costs and as the Economy is not working "STAGFLATION" will set in the Real Figure of US Gross External Debt has Crossed US$ 16.411 Trillion and due to the Shrinking Revenues Borrowings & Treasury Auction Size will Increase. Unemployment on the US Streets are closer to 13 % and not 9 % as wrongly given by the US Government. They have been cooking the Figures for some time now. As US Bankruptcy is close the Tactics used by the US Government have been extreme. Causing Chaos in Middle East due to No Investment Inflows in USA for the past 15 years have starved USA. Thus this Upheaval was necessary for 1) Protecting Israel and The Jews 2) Money and Control over the Crude Oil  3) Power as Out with the Old and In with the New who will be easier to control and Command.  I still remember
Manual Noreiga being kidnapped from his own Country by US Forces.I  still remember Saddam Hussain the Once Ally of USA and having "Weapons of Mass destruction & Chemical weapons (as UK & USA Said no proof)"  had to Go .I still remember Osama Bin Ladin The Hero Of USA when USSR was defeated and became Public enemy # 1 of USA. I still Remember Dr. Aafia Siddiqui Kidnapped with her children from Karachi and "Suddenly" landing up in Afghanistan.I still remember Aimal Kansi also Kidnapped from Pakistan by the Feds.I still remember USA always "NEVER" honoring its commitments.I still remember UN being silent in Bosnia , Gaza , Shatilla , I Still remember 9/11 an Inside Government Job where NORAD and Bush and Cheney and Condi all responsible and planning this 10-15 years in advance (what i really pity is how the American Public can be fooled soo easily and USA killing its Own people).I Still remember that USA Blamed Saddam for Killing 7,000-10,000 of his
own countrymen whereas over 1.5 Million were Killed in the Iraq war. Women and Children Raped , Tortured and Mutilated. Whole Families wiped out to Terror squads..  No Accountability as orders must have been from the Very TOP.I still Remember Afghanistan and Again Civilians Targetted with their fingers being cut-Off as war trophies again No Accountability as again Orders Must have been From the Very Top.I still remember Drone Attacks and War on Pakistan with Pakistani Leaders squabbling for Money and petty Power when they all forget "Alexander The Great who was ruler of the World of those times on his death Bed asked his General to Bury him with His Hands outside the Grave/Coffin. On Enquiry of why from the General the Great Leaders Comments. I Own The World but i am not able to take anything with me let it be a lesson for the People"  ALAS if all Leaders Small or Big Remembered this that They cannot take anything with them in their grave and
Accountability will be SEVERE. Mr. Meekal let me update you now of Future Chain of events as The Barriers of No Return have been crossed and USA is doomed. No One can Bail it out  NO ONE. Those trying to will sink like the Titanic. USA passed these Barriers exactly in 2008. when US "Gurus & Experts" did not accept USA was in a Recession/Depression. Once they Did accept it in Mid 2009 they did not take any Corrective measures i.e. Drastic curtailment of Expenses and instead of Pumping money into The Financial Sector and Falling Companies (Basically bailing out the Rich Directors at the expense of the Taxpayer).. The Trouble Asset Relief Program (TARP)  Link:- http://www.federalreserve.gov/bankinforeg/tarpinfo.htmChina Has over Taken USA in BOTH Technology and Economy and has been Helping foster African economies as it has been Asian. USA have Never Helped out anyone except ISRAEL. The World has always kept Mum on USA Bullying and terrorist
activities, UN , Europe and Other Agencies creating spin offs and Leading to False ideas. So what Goes around comes around. People have forgotten that There is a  GOD .  USA has been getting hints to mend its ways but they have been totally Blind to these Hints allowing Moral Degradation and helping Atheism. Remember Kathrina , BP Oil Spill , Now Japan with Radio Activity spreading world wide and causing New Strains of Disease and Mutations , mutant Babies , DNA destroyed. a lesson for all. The Hail Storm in April and Now Tornadoes in Alabama and 5 States. These are all Signs and Hints "wake Up USA and Wake Up world".  I am Surprised how the Americans have not Protested about 9/11 and allowed their Loved ones die with No Accountability and Fooling everyone. We all have Grey matter in our Heads to think and Logic. Ok let me Give you some Logic but will You listen and swallow it ?will You take action against Your Own Leaders as they are the ones who
have done it.
YOU ALL OWE IT TO YOURSELVES AND THE WORLD TO SEE ALL OF THIS AND USE "YOUR" HEAD.
 

 

9/11: Total Proof
That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw#

 

Firemen Do Not Lie!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ELYOJCHMQ&feature=related

 

9/11 Suicide Hijackers Alive and Well!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqe3WeSyN0&NR=1

 

Re investigate on 9/11 mysteries..

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJgY3zYics&NR=1

 

 

9/11 TWIN TOWERS
Original Video and Sound ANDRES BARRILA

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qddt-_zu4D0&feature=related#

 

CNN Admits 9-11 Inside Job

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyMIqVfH8zY&feature=related

 

9/11 Mysteries Building
7 DEMOLITION JOB

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ-v0zQWmiM&feature=related

 

9/11   INSIDE WTC Before collapse

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RlKF1B9Hk&feature=related

 

 

9/11 twin towers
crash footage

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related

 

 

 

 

 

9/11 Inside Job - The Most
Damning Evidence Yet!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIU6ZxYU3A&feature=related

 

 

Evidence that
George W. Bush had advanced knowledge of 9-11

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWSv0NZBRw

 

Bush Caught Lying
About September 11th

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&feature=related

 

9/11 Coincidences
(Part One)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw&feature=related

 

9/11 Coincidences
(Part Two)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7BSt9jhxPQ&feature=related

 

9/11 Coincidences
(Part Three)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd8B-8Au-Wk&feature=related

 

 

9/11 Coincidences
(Part Four)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ8_Qy0zp8&feature=related

 

9/11 Coincidences
(Part Five) -> IMPT

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3JmXQ-z8S4&feature=related

 

 

9/11 Coincidences
(Part Six)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em_XyTeNA1g&feature=related

 

 

 

 

George W. Bush
caught off guard 9-11 Question

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvqXXnxLZw&feature=related#

 

9/11 - strange
facts   IMPORTANT

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeybdEuf16A&feature=related

 

 

9/11 WTC - Video
Not Shown In Europe Or USA

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeAwSAEXHkI&feature=related

 

 

9/11 Audio tape of
call from World Trade Center
9/11

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QsdUevUQgk&feature=related

 

9/11   INSIDE WTC Before collapse

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RlKF1B9Hk&feature=related

 

9/11 See The Bush
Administration Commit Treason

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6KbUpGNBts&feature=related

 

 

Bush admits that Iraq
Had Nothing To Do With 9/11

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM&feature=related
 

 

BANNED Pres. Bush
Interview

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is&feature=related

 

If You're an
American you should see THIS! for real

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiUDKI0ptyk&feature=related

 

 

 

 

 

Bush
Administration Caught Contradicting Itself 6 Times

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-6A59qzAU&feature=related

 

Former CIA
Official Exposes Bush Administration Fraud

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a3Bfox0k4g&feature=related

 

9/11 Bush Wanted
For Treason,Terrorism and Murder

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULx2NkjXE4&feature=related

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Greatest Bush
Speech Ever!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmLE7paJU8&NR=1

 

 I cannot give you more Proof than all this...... USE your Heads.
Now regarding the chain of events 5-7 Years from Now i.e. 2016-2018 USA should start Defaulting on its commitments. The Impact will Hit the Middle and Poor Classes who then will start Chaos..Maybe even Civil War after Strikes and Looting and Lawlessness.5-7 Years from Defaulting i.e. 2023-2025 USA should start Breaking Up and USA will be doomed. Time is relative  it could be sooner or it could be a few years later but this senerios Holds True as Now Things are IRREVERSABLE.     
There is also a Good Chance we will have World War III  where Israel will be demolished.      
The Institutions most Affected will be Israel , IMF, World Bank , UN , UK , ADB , and Many whose money/assets are in USA. 
Wake Up everyone........... today is First of May 2011. Let me document it for you guys.

Kamal Khan

--- On Sat, 4/30/11, Bashir Syed <bsyed@att.net> wrote:

From: Bashir Syed <bsyed@att.net>
Subject: RE: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End
To: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Media-Tribe@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 7:38 AM

Mr. meekal Ahmed's first paragraph shows limits of his knowledge, which led him to label others withwhom he disagrees as CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. There is group of very highly educated folks [just check out   www.globalresearch.ca and this ought to open his eyes about the evil side of technology and how scientists without conscience employed by Military industrial Complex are bent upon killing and destroying this beautiful world. He ought to read the transcript of an old FRONTLINE Program - "Confessions of a Weaponeer," an interview of George Kistiakowski (Prof. at MIT and contributor for the Implosion System for Atomic Bomb during Mahattan Project) by a famous Cornell University Astrophysicist, Carl Sagan  in 90's.  Bashir A. SyedRetired Aerospace Physicist Member, Union of Concerned Scientists  From: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shirin.syed@me.com
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:00 AM
To: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End    M,

The expression is "dire straits", not "dire straights", as you have written; otherwise a good article, as usual. :)

S.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Meekalahmed2@aol.com Sender: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:15:55 -0400 (EDT)To: <Pakistan-MEDIA@yahoogroups.com>ReplyTo: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End      The one-sided, alarmist prognosis by Mr Kamal Khan is not very helpful -- just amusing. Considering he is amongst the conspiracy theorists who believe 9/11 was an inside job, this rant suits him.  Sure the US economy is in dire straights (it's fiscal issues are a nightmare) and China will be the biggest economy by about 2015. Personally, I think that will be wonderful -- provided China also takes on the responsibilities that come with being No. 1 -- including improving their human rights record and being less aggressive with their currency which is destroying jobs world-wide and not only in America. I look forward to a Chinese being the Managing
Director of the IMF (the Americans will never give up the Presidency of the World Bank and the Japanese will continue to hold the top position in the Asian Development Bank). And why not?! The Chinese yuan will soon be included in the IMF's SDR currency basket (a matter of great prestige). The yuan may soon become an internationally traded currency but not just yet. The dollar will continue to show weakness as long as US growth remains lackluster and below-trend and unemployment is high. But a weak dollar is good for US exports and makes US imports more expensive contributing to external account adjustment. In the meantime there will be a flight to quality, namely gold which just crossed $1,500 per ounce.  Since the global economy is closely inter-connected, we should not gloat over the US' misfortunes. The US, the UK and the European economies (all in deep trouble with some having turned to the IMF for emergency assistance and others such as
Spain, Portugal and perhaps even Italy about to go over the edge) are our export markets, where our capital/aid comes from and where our workers who send back Pakistan millions of dollars as remittances to sustain our economy reside. It is also the source of our high-tech imports. We should hope that the global economy revives steadily and that it broadens. If it stalls, or there is a double-dip recession, it will hurt Pakistan as an open import-remittance-and-aid-dependent country proportionately more than it will hurt the advanced countries. They have the safety nets to protect their poor; we don't. It will be a very long time before countries will stop buying US government paper -- including the Chinese. It is true S&P, the rating agency, has recently sounded a warning on US debt. But after the last financial crash in 2008-09, the reputation of all rating agencies is in tatters. These were the same rating agencies giving AAA marks to
sub-prime (junk) mortgage-backed securities which companies like Goldman Sacks were selling to their prime clients while at the same time betting that they would fail. This is a complex subject and just some random thoughts on a warm and sunny afternoon which thankfully heralds a much-awaited Spring in the US Northeast. MAAUSA                In a message dated 4/29/2011 12:12:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ksherry59@yahoo.com writes:  ----- Forwarded Message -----
From: KAMAL KHAN <kamalkhan_171@yahoo.com>
To: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Media-Tribe@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: Fw: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End  Let everyone be very very clear about what's going on in the World Today and the Impact which will be felt by 1 ) Rest of the World   &  2) Pakistan & Pakistani's.First of all The Chaos which Started with Tunisia and then started to Spread to Egypt , Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Syria , Libya etc etc. This chaos was  a well thought out operation planned 10-12 years back and then the coordination, strategy and finally the implementation went into being causing this chaos . One can Ask FOR WHAT ? Three Reasons 1) Protection of Israel & the Jews.2) Money as USA is bankrupt and Middle east had stopped Putting its Money in USA for the Past 10 Years ( This Includes Crude Oil & International Prices of Commodities which are also effected).3) Power and Control (Out with the Old who had started to give excuses and in with the New who are easier to command).Just as 9/11 was a US Government
Inside Job. This was also done by the Few who Control
Governments.The Effect surprisingly has so far been in-effective for USA & ISRAEL as people like me also know "THE REAL TRUTH" and are spreading this knowledge. I have been threatened a few times and might be one of the missing persons soon enough as i know too much Just Like Dr. Aafia Siddiqui knew too much and was well connected.The Effect on the World is easy and simple as Now everyone should know or if they don't then I will spell it out to everyone.  USA is BROKE . G-10 are way Over their Heads in Debt excepting China and Japan.That is where electronic Money/Wire Transfers come into play.  ALL IT and things can be controlled at the IT Data Centre.  SWIFT Data Centre is in Brussels. Need i say further?. USA has over US$ 16.411 Trillion in Debts and ONLY US$ 399 Billion Gold Reserves (At current Rates). That is why China is now asking for Guarantees and anyone who will put his money would ask for Guarantees considering the US Dollar has been
losing its value for the Past 20 Years. The Effect of this Financial Tsumani will be especially felt by UN , IMF , WORLD BANK , ADB, Europe and ALL Those countries who have their currencies pegged to the US Dollar or who have USA as a Major trading Partner. 
One of my Old 08th July 2008  Write-ups forewarning the start of Goof-Ups by the US Government by their "FINANCIAL GURUS/EXPERTS"

THE ALARMING HEALTH OF THE US ECONOMY

 

The health of U.S. has been on the rocks ever
since the Gramm-Rudmann-Hollings Law was amended/scrapped by President Bush.
The Repercussions on the Consumer/Common man on the street will be felt when
the Debt Servicing gets to above 3 Percent of GDP. which it already is. That
means that a period of recession which we have started. This should last for
another 2 possibly 3 years till 2011 
followed inflation will follow for the next 5-7 years finally followed
by a Period of Stagflation possibly 3 years (reason I say Possibly, is because
all these depend on favourable / unfavourable changes of policy

of / from The US Government) i.e. I see Interest rates back
above double digits in 7-10 years. With the economy performing poorly. Proper
Recession should show its indication from 2009. Therefore Outflow of
investments should pick up speed 2009 onwards. Strikes / Bankruptcies to double
in the next 5 years. Unemployment to double in next 5 years. The USD to FALL ,
the Stock market to Fall to 7,000 levels . The banking sector to lead the way
as FDIC doesn't  have enough money to
bail out a Top 20 US Bank. The Blame (I Feel) goes ALL to US Congress-Senate
especially PRESIDENT BUSH for his policies to gain Votes and popularity NOW at
the cost of the Future of the US People as the Consumer/Common people in USA
will feel the HIT 5-7 years down the road in a Big way. First Recession
followed by Stagflation after 3-5 years will and should be hitting the economy
in 2009 onwards as the Sub-Prime Mortgage crises is ONLY the forewarning of
worse gloom and doom to follow. Financial Sector (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
will cost the Government over 100 Billion Dollars and this will  add to the doom naturally this will be taken
from the Consumers/Common Taxpayer).

 

UNLESS AND UNTIL THE TWIN DEFICITS ARE CONTROLLED NAMELY
BUDGET AND TRADE DEFICITS THEN IF DEVALUATION OF THE DOLLAR ON A MASSIVE SCALE
PLUS SPENDING CUTS ARE CARRIED OUT THE BALOON WILL BURST SOONER RATHER THAN
LATER SPELLING GLOOM AND DOOM ON A FAR MASSIVE SCALE THAN 1929 (GREAT
DEPRESSION).

 

So who is going to Bail out the USA ? EU ? World Bank ? IMF ? Japan
? China
? Who ???

 

 

Note what I have written down now as Time will tell you IF I
am right or wrong. Today 08 July 2008.

(This is my Personal Analysis and my own working)

 

Regards

Kamal Khan

Analyst/Consultant

Impact for Pakistan Can be minimal IF corrective measures/Steps are taken. 
I am available for Help... Losses will be in US$ Billions and in Europe and USA Trillions.
Signing Off
Kamal Khan   

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The Royal Wedding
 
 
A Muslim woman is oppressed when she wears the veil, what about a Christian woman? Is Kate not oppressed for wearing a veil?! and is her value not diminished by her father giving her away to Harry as if she was some property!
 

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Mr. meekal Ahmed's first paragraph shows limits of his knowledge, which led him to label others withwhom he disagrees as CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. There is group of very highly educated folks [just check out   www.globalresearch.ca and this ought to open his eyes about the evil side of technology and how scientists without conscience employed by Military industrial Complex are bent upon killing and destroying this beautiful world.

He ought to read the transcript of an old FRONTLINE Program - "Confessions of a Weaponeer," an interview of George Kistiakowski (Prof. at MIT and contributor for the Implosion System for Atomic Bomb during Mahattan Project) by a famous Cornell University Astrophysicist, Carl Sagan  in 90's.

 

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Member, Union of Concerned Scientists

 

From: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shirin.syed@me.com
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:00 AM
To: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End

 

 

M,

The expression is "dire straits", not "dire straights", as you have written; otherwise a good article, as usual. :)

S.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:15:55 -0400 (EDT)

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Subject: Re: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End

 

 

 

 

The one-sided, alarmist prognosis by Mr Kamal Khan is not very helpful -- just amusing. Considering he is amongst the conspiracy theorists who believe 9/11 was an inside job, this rant suits him.

 

Sure the US economy is in dire straights (it's fiscal issues are a nightmare) and China will be the biggest economy by about 2015. Personally, I think that will be wonderful -- provided China also takes on the responsibilities that come with being No. 1 -- including improving their human rights record and being less aggressive with their currency which is destroying jobs world-wide and not only in America. I look forward to a Chinese being the Managing Director of the IMF (the Americans will never give up the Presidency of the World Bank and the Japanese will continue to hold the top position in the Asian Development Bank). And why not?!

 

The Chinese yuan will soon be included in the IMF's SDR currency basket (a matter of great prestige). The yuan may soon become an internationally traded currency but not just yet. The dollar will continue to show weakness as long as US growth remains lackluster and below-trend and unemployment is high. But a weak dollar is good for US exports and makes US imports more expensive contributing to external account adjustment.

 

In the meantime there will be a flight to quality, namely gold which just crossed $1,500 per ounce. 

 

Since the global economy is closely inter-connected, we should not gloat over the US' misfortunes. The US, the UK and the European economies (all in deep trouble with some having turned to the IMF for emergency assistance and others such as Spain, Portugal and perhaps even Italy about to go over the edge) are our export markets, where our capital/aid comes from and where our workers who send back Pakistan millions of dollars as remittances to sustain our economy reside. It is also the source of our high-tech imports. We should hope that the global economy revives steadily and that it broadens. If it stalls, or there is a double-dip recession, it will hurt Pakistan as an open import-remittance-and-aid-dependent country proportionately more than it will hurt the advanced countries. They have the safety nets to protect their poor; we don't.

 

It will be a very long time before countries will stop buying US government paper -- including the Chinese. It is true S&P, the rating agency, has recently sounded a warning on US debt. But after the last financial crash in 2008-09, the reputation of all rating agencies is in tatters. These were the same rating agencies giving AAA marks to sub-prime (junk) mortgage-backed securities which companies like Goldman Sacks were selling to their prime clients while at the same time betting that they would fail.

 

This is a complex subject and just some random thoughts on a warm and sunny afternoon which thankfully heralds a much-awaited Spring in the US Northeast.

 

MAA

USA             

 

 

 

In a message dated 4/29/2011 12:12:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ksherry59@yahoo.com writes:

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: Fw: [Pak-Media] IMF Bombshell: Age of America Nears End

 

Let everyone be very very clear about what's going on in the World Today and the Impact which will be felt by 1 ) Rest of the World   &  2) Pakistan & Pakistani's.First of all The Chaos which Started with Tunisia and then started to Spread to Egypt , Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Syria , Libya etc etc. This chaos was  a well thought out operation planned 10-12 years back and then the coordination, strategy and finally the implementation went into being causing this chaos . One can Ask FOR WHAT ? Three Reasons 1) Protection of Israel & the Jews.2) Money as USA is bankrupt and Middle east had stopped Putting its Money in USA for the Past 10 Years ( This Includes Crude Oil & International Prices of Commodities which are also effected).3) Power and Control (Out with the Old who had started to give excuses and in with the New who are easier to command).Just as 9/11 was a US Government Inside Job. This was also done by the Few who Control
Governments.The Effect surprisingly has so far been in-effective for USA & ISRAEL as people like me also know "THE REAL TRUTH" and are spreading this knowledge. I have been threatened a few times and might be one of the missing persons soon enough as i know too much Just Like Dr. Aafia Siddiqui knew too much and was well connected.The Effect on the World is easy and simple as Now everyone should know or if they don't then I will spell it out to everyone.  USA is BROKE . G-10 are way Over their Heads in Debt excepting China and Japan.That is where electronic Money/Wire Transfers come into play.  ALL IT and things can be controlled at the IT Data Centre.  SWIFT Data Centre is in Brussels. Need i say further?. USA has over US$ 16.411 Trillion in Debts and ONLY US$ 399 Billion Gold Reserves (At current Rates). That is why China is now asking for Guarantees and anyone who will put his money would ask for Guarantees considering the US Dollar has been
losing its value for the Past 20 Years. The Effect of this Financial Tsumani will be especially felt by UN , IMF , WORLD BANK , ADB, Europe and ALL Those countries who have their currencies pegged to the US Dollar or who have USA as a Major trading Partner. 
One of my Old 08th July 2008  Write-ups forewarning the start of Goof-Ups by the US Government by their "FINANCIAL GURUS/EXPERTS"

THE ALARMING HEALTH OF THE US ECONOMY

 

The health of U.S. has been on the rocks ever
since the Gramm-Rudmann-Hollings Law was amended/scrapped by President Bush.
The Repercussions on the Consumer/Common man on the street will be felt when
the Debt Servicing gets to above 3 Percent of GDP. which it already is. That
means that a period of recession which we have started. This should last for
another 2 possibly 3 years till 2011 
followed inflation will follow for the next 5-7 years finally followed
by a Period of Stagflation possibly 3 years (reason I say Possibly, is because
all these depend on favourable / unfavourable changes of policy

of / from The US Government) i.e. I see Interest rates back
above double digits in 7-10 years. With the economy performing poorly. Proper
Recession should show its indication from 2009. Therefore Outflow of
investments should pick up speed 2009 onwards. Strikes / Bankruptcies to double
in the next 5 years. Unemployment to double in next 5 years. The USD to FALL ,
the Stock market to Fall to 7,000 levels . The banking sector to lead the way
as FDIC doesn't  have enough money to
bail out a Top 20 US Bank. The Blame (I Feel) goes ALL to US Congress-Senate
especially PRESIDENT BUSH for his policies to gain Votes and popularity NOW at
the cost of the Future of the US People as the Consumer/Common people in USA
will feel the HIT 5-7 years down the road in a Big way. First Recession
followed by Stagflation after 3-5 years will and should be hitting the economy
in 2009 onwards as the Sub-Prime Mortgage crises is ONLY the forewarning of
worse gloom and doom to follow. Financial Sector (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
will cost the Government over 100 Billion Dollars and this will  add to the doom naturally this will be taken
from the Consumers/Common Taxpayer).

 

UNLESS AND UNTIL THE TWIN DEFICITS ARE CONTROLLED NAMELY
BUDGET AND TRADE DEFICITS THEN IF DEVALUATION OF THE DOLLAR ON A MASSIVE SCALE
PLUS SPENDING CUTS ARE CARRIED OUT THE BALOON WILL BURST SOONER RATHER THAN
LATER SPELLING GLOOM AND DOOM ON A FAR MASSIVE SCALE THAN 1929 (GREAT
DEPRESSION).

 

So who is going to Bail out the USA ? EU ? World Bank ? IMF ? Japan
? China
? Who ???

 

 

Note what I have written down now as Time will tell you IF I
am right or wrong. Today 08 July 2008.

(This is my Personal Analysis and my own working)

 

Regards

Kamal Khan

Analyst/Consultant

Impact for Pakistan Can be minimal IF corrective measures/Steps are taken. 
I am available for Help... Losses will be in US$ Billions and in Europe and USA Trillions.
Signing Off
Kamal Khan 

 

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