First of all Pakistan has till date lost appox US$ 110 Billion in various shapes due to USA's  War On Terror this of course is not counting the Human Fatalities which cannot be valued. To Top it OFF  USA has set up 6 Bases in Pakistan , Has over 2,600 Xe Services(Blackwater) Personell  and over 3,300 Crack Condor Guerrilla troops all over Pakistan. They->USA has not done anything for Pakistan in the PAST and the way we are losing money with only "FALSE PROMISES & FALSE COMMITMENTS" shows that they want Pakistan and Pakistani's to foot the Bill.  As one American Put it. Raymond Davis should be set free as he "ONLY KILLED A FEW COCKROACHES" plus another Senator said that Pakistan would sell their mothers for a few dollars. We our Government has so far shown those wordings to be True. The Vast Majority is totally against USA and as they are the "REAL ONES WHO ARE EFFECTED" due to all this cost rise , Killings ,  covert operations by Xe & US Troops. The "LITERARY   SOCIETY THE SO CALLED LIBERALS" followers and i would also say Worshipper's of Gora's Have always pointed the finger Against Pakistan and Pakistani's and highlighted and blown up  our Weaknesses and hidden our strengths. Our Strengths is we are MUSLIM and Follow ISLAM at least many of us do. We are a Nuclear nation and USA is clearly after our Nuclear facilities. We can easily support ourselves if we can do away with the lavish Lifestyles the Mercedes/BMW's
The Beauty Salon's etc . We should Impose "SHARIA" which ZIA-UL-HAQ was about to do Before he was killed (By the Americans directly or Indirectly as they didn't want SHARIA to be imposed in Pakistan). There is a Secret Cult/club who support Israel and Jews and they want Pakistan to Be friends with JEWS/ISRAEL  that means those people Do not Follow the Holy QURAN which clearly States That Yahoud & Nisara will "NEVER" be Friends of Muslims and Our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W.) Clearly said those who  will be firends of the Yahound & Nisara will  not be a Muslim but will on the Day of Judgement be one of the Yahoud and Nisara..  For Further Learning about Muslims/The Holy Quran & AL HADEES  please contact the Aalims in Bennori Town or Dar UL Uloom or Jamia Rashidiya or Jamia Farrouqia ....  I Say Aalims  not just anyone...  Whatever was written and said 1400 Years back is coming true and we are very close to the Time when Our Mehdi (A.S.) is going to come.  So for those who drink and follow the Gora's maybe in our lifetimes or surely in our children's lifetimes this will come about as  time is relative. 
Now look inwards at yourself what have we done to bring back Dr. Aafia Siddiqui?
What have we done to Help, Feed the Poor Flood Affected & Earthquake Victims ? as we have forgotten them.  
What have we Really done to Learn ISLAM about our OWN Religion? 
What have we done to Bring the Murderer's of over 1,000 Girls and boys murdered in Lal  Masjid ?
What have we done to Stop the Drone Attacks ?
What have we done to find the over 5,000 Missing Persons?
What have we Really done to Stop the corruption ?? 
What have we done to Stop Xe/Balckwater doing what it did in IRAQ ?
Why do we negotiate with Grossman/US Ambassador  both Jews?
Why do we Follow USA / UK / The West ?  
Why not have our OWN MUSLIM & ISLAMIC VALUES AND IDENTITY ?

Until the "Liberal" and "Educated"  people stop having this Gora Slave Mentality
Until then This will  continue. 

Wake up you all  and start doing something for ISLAM , For MUSLIMS , For PAKISTAN ,  for Yourself & your Children.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Kamal Khan 


  



--- On Mon, 3/7/11, am malik <nmalik915@gmail.com> wrote:

From: am malik <nmalik915@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Pak-Media] Should Be Required Reading For All Pakistani's
To: Pakistan-Media@yahoogroups.com, Meekalahmed2@aol.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 7:31 AM



Dear Mr Meekal
AOA
For assessing ur article as a piece of good  literature ,  u get an 'A'.      So also in trying to cover our eyes when a Rhino is attacking  and then u shout "all ok". So that was ur bottom line - what the CIA /Mossad/RAW has been endevouring since the past few years. Demonize the mainstay of the country - the ISI and the army in particular. No -  India is no threat. It is just a bogey propped by the viscious interest group of the Army - and see how  Buddha is smiling?! Three occassions that some writers were hired, even given the scripted guidelines on which to write - 1st when we were supposed to become nuclear( in fact cold tests had already been done in 1986), the anti articles started appearing. Only advising us - and not the  Indians seeking 'shanti'  - to roll back.   2nd when we conducted the nuke tests - and now.
Every time our "sincere" advisers for-warned us with the likely dire consequences.  And when the die did not cast as desired so the best way is to slander. Like the Goebel of German - continue to feed lies , initially the people will not like but slowly they will start digesting the same.
Sir have u  analysed , whether it is a coincident that the demonstrations and the quest for democracy has found the desired dimensions and the so called way forward all at the same time in all these countries? while the west under the cloak of humanity, started to sharpen the teeth to take over Libya with her rich oil reserves? The next Algeria Bahrain and then like the path of a cyclone turning  around to Pakistan?? How come  the great country of USA who had harboured, protected and as in Pakistan as well , installed these despotic rulers - all of a sudden is alive to the democrtaic desires of the people at large.  Is there a method to madness to create a fog all over in the name of the  democracy and then would the real action start??
U mention of the 'army's' interest to keep the blood warm and to make a fool of the public in the name of threat of an enemy which is not there.   You need to double the size of eyes to see the real threat.  Again with assortment of individuals especially in the officers corpse from different areas and strata of society - how can a cohesive interest group be formed??
I will aappeal to u sir -  use your writing for the good of the country and not for some temperory holds.
May Allah bless you
am
 
 
 
On 7 March 2011 17:25, <Meekalahmed2@aol.com> wrote:
 

The $110 Billion Question

When one looks across the Arab world today at the stunning spontaneous
democracy uprisings, it is impossible to not ask: What are we doing spending
$110 billion this year supporting corrupt and unpopular regimes in
Afghanistan and Pakistan that are almost identical to the governments we're
applauding the Arab people for overthrowing?

Ever since 9/11, the West has hoped for a war of ideas within the Muslim
world that would feature an internal challenge to the violent radical Islamic
ideology of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. That contest, though, never
really materialized because the regimes we counted on to promote it found
violent Muslim extremism a convenient foil, so they allowed it to persist.
Moreover, these corrupt, crony capitalist Arab regimes were hardly the ideal
carriers for an alternative to bin Ladenism. To the contrary, it was their
abusive behavior and vicious suffocation of any kind of independent moderate
centrist parties that fueled the extremism even more.
Now the people themselves have taken down those regimes in Egypt and
Tunisia, and they're rattling the ones in Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, Oman and Iran.
They are not doing it for us, or to answer bin Laden. They are doing it by
themselves for themselves — because they want their freedom and to control
their own destinies. But in doing so they have created a hugely powerful,
modernizing challenge to bin Ladenism, which is why Al Qaeda today is
tongue-tied. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
Al Qaeda's answer to modern-day autocracy was its version of the
seventh-century Caliphate. But the people — from Tunisia to Yemen — have come up
with their own answer to violent extremism and the abusive regimes we've been
propping up. It's called democracy. They have a long way to go to lock it
in. It may yet be hijacked by religious forces. But, for now, it is clear
that the majority wants to build a future in the 21st century, not the
seventh.
In other words, the Arab peoples have done for free, on their own and for
their own reasons, everything that we were paying their regimes to do in the
"war on terrorism" but they never did.
And that brings me back to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Last October,
Transparency International rated the regime of President Hamid Karzai in
Afghanistan as the second most corrupt in the world after Somalia's. That is the
Afghan regime we will spend more than $110 billion in 2011 to support.
And tell me that Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, which dominates
Pakistani politics, isn't the twin of Hosni Mubarak's security service.
Pakistan's military leaders play the same game Mubarak played with us for years.
First, they whisper in our ears: "Psst, without us, the radical Islamists
will rule. So we may not be perfect, but we're the only thing standing in
the way of the devil." In reality, though, they are nurturing the devil. The
ISI is long alleged to have been fostering anti-Indian radical Muslim
groups and masterminding the Afghan Taliban.
Apart from radical Islam, the other pretext the Pakistani military uses for
its inordinate grip on power is the external enemy. Just as Arab regimes
used the conflict with Israel for years to keep their people distracted and
to justify huge military budgets, Pakistan's ISI tells itself, the
Pakistani people and us that it can't stop sponsoring proxies in Afghanistan
because of the "threat" from India.
Here's a secret: India is not going to invade Pakistan. It is an utterly
bogus argument. India wants to focus on its own development, not owning
Pakistan's problems. India has the second-largest Muslim population on the
planet, more even than Pakistan. And while Indian Muslims are not without their
economic and political grievances, they are, on the whole, integrated into
India's democracy because it is a democracy. There are no Indian Muslims in
Guantánamo Bay.
Finally, you did not need to dig very far in Egypt or Jordan to hear that
one reason for the rebellion in Egypt and protests in Jordan was the
in-your-face corruption and crony capitalism that everyone in the public knew
about.
That same kind of pillaging of assets — natural resources, development aid,
the meager savings of a million Kabul Bank depositors and crony contracts —
has fueled a similar anger against the regime in Afghanistan and u
ndermined our nation-building efforts there.
The truth is we can't do much to consolidate the democracy movements in
Egypt and Tunisia. They'll have to make it work themselves. But we could do
what we can, which is divert some of the $110 billion we're lavishing on the
Afghan regime and the Pakistani Army and use it for debt relief, schools
and scholarships to U.S. universities for young Egyptians and Tunisians who
had the courage to take down the very kind of regimes we're still holding up
in Kabul and Islamabad.
I know we can't just walk out of Afghanistan and Pakistan; there are good
people, too, in both places. But our involvement in these two countries —
150,000 troops to confront Al Qaeda — is totally out of proportion today with
our interests and out of all sync with our values. ,





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Arguments in favour and against the government sponsored Hajj are very
interesting and I am fully agree with Irfan Ashraf that pro govt
sponsored Hajj people know that they are the prisoner of their own
exploitative past. Last night I was reading a story on a site.
They also censored the names of ARY Owners and Mr. Sabir Shakir.
I know Sabir Shakir ARY News TV is permanent visitor of Saudi Arabia
and perform Hajj on the expenses of Saudi or Pakistani governments and
he is trying to deceive the readers that he had not availed government
sponsored Hajj facility. I am agree with Ms Bareera that he is also
living in government residential colony Mr. Rauf Klasra daily Express
Tribune Mr. Amir Ilyas Rana Express TV Mr. Zahid Khan of Daily Amn

These people are looters and very unfortunately when you listen their
sermons on TV screens you feel they are pope of journalism.

Rauf Klasra with the help of his friend Prime Minister Yousaf Raza
Gilani thrown out a senior researcher and intellectual Zawar Hussain
Zaidi for grabbing that house.
How Rauf Klasra got plot in Federal Government Employees Housing
Colony and how Javed Chaudery exposed him.
How Amir Ilyas Rana got more than one dozen houses in Islamabad. Does
he deserve?

Same is the case of Mr. Sabir Shakir he is living in government
housing colony illegally and goes on government sponsored Hajj every
year(Rauf Klasra in not involved in this mal-practice) some
journalists also taking their families their spouse showing them as
journalist and some got plots on their names.

The Hajjis of ARY also washed their hands in this loot sale of
government sponsored Hajj and neither one but six of a family availed
government sponsored Hajj facility and Haji Rauf father in law and
uncle of Mr. Salman Iqbal and Haji Mohammad Iqbal father of Salman
Iqbal also availed this facility on government tax payer's money.

May Allah forgive them because how much people are committing suicide
due to unemployment and other financial issues and these people are
enjoying life and religion on their cost?

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"Defending the Will of the People"


Thursday, March 10th, 2011


Palais de Nations, Geneva:  Room XXIII between 2.00 p.m. to 4.00 p.m.


The speakers will draw to the attention of the Council Article 21 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which provides, in pertinent part: "The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government. Exercising the right to self-determination and defending the true will of a people can occur a variety ways such as in periodic, democratic and fair elections; plebiscites and referendums, organized by the United Nations or some other authority; peaceful revolt; or organizing national liberation movements." The latest expressions of peaceful revolt have just occurred in TunisiaEgyptand peaceful protest that unfortunately turned bloodier in Libya but in recent history have also occurred throughout the world. The latest example of a referendum was that carried out in January 2011 in Sudan's south. There are other situations in which the United Nations promised a people a plebiscite or referendum to determine their will but which have not yet been carried out: Western Sahara, Palestine and Kashmir.   


In our view, a major impediment to resolving many of these situations is that the Human Rights Council devalued the right to self-determination, keeping only the issue of the use of mercenaries alive and well on its agenda. The speakers will discuss how to persuade the Council to appoint a Special Rapporteur on the right to self-determination and defending the will of the people and provide this topic with its own agenda item. 


Speakers:


Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Chairman, All Parties Hurriyet Conference, Kashmir


Lord Nazir Ahmed, Member, British House of Lords, England


Dr. Karen Parker, IED Delegate to the United Nations, USA


Dr. Ahmed AbdelLatti, IIFSO Secretary General, Turkey


Mr. Hussein Orac, Archectic of Freedom Flotilla to Gaza, Palestine


Ms. Suaad Alfitouri, Chairman, Society Outreach, Libya


Mr. Mohamed Abdel Wahid Ghanem, Exiled Leader, Egypt


Mr. Waleed Albanany, Al-Nahda Movement, Tunisia


Mr. Loghman AHMADI, Congress of Nationalities for a Federated Iran


Mr. Ali S. Khan, Executive Director, Kashmiri Scandinavian Council, 

Norway


Mr. Amjad Yousuf, Kashmir Institute of International Relations, Azad Kashmir


Dr. Ghulam Nabi Fai, Kashmiri American Council/Kashmir Center, Washington

 

Co-sponsors: 

Association of Humanitarian Lawyers, IIFSO, IHRAAM, WMC, AHRKI, KMMK-G


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Dear Mr Meekal
AOA
For assessing ur article as a piece of good  literature ,  u get an 'A'.      So also in trying to cover our eyes when a Rhino is attacking  and then u shout "all ok". So that was ur bottom line - what the CIA /Mossad/RAW has been endevouring since the past few years. Demonize the mainstay of the country - the ISI and the army in particular. No -  India is no threat. It is just a bogey propped by the viscious interest group of the Army - and see how  Buddha is smiling?! Three occassions that some writers were hired, even given the scripted guidelines on which to write - 1st when we were supposed to become nuclear( in fact cold tests had already been done in 1986), the anti articles started appearing. Only advising us - and not the  Indians seeking 'shanti'  - to roll back.   2nd when we conducted the nuke tests - and now.
Every time our "sincere" advisers for-warned us with the likely dire consequences.  And when the die did not cast as desired so the best way is to slander. Like the Goebel of German - continue to feed lies , initially the people will not like but slowly they will start digesting the same.
Sir have u  analysed , whether it is a coincident that the demonstrations and the quest for democracy has found the desired dimensions and the so called way forward all at the same time in all these countries? while the west under the cloak of humanity, started to sharpen the teeth to take over Libya with her rich oil reserves? The next Algeria Bahrain and then like the path of a cyclone turning  around to Pakistan?? How come  the great country of USA who had harboured, protected and as in Pakistan as well , installed these despotic rulers - all of a sudden is alive to the democrtaic desires of the people at large.  Is there a method to madness to create a fog all over in the name of the  democracy and then would the real action start??
U mention of the 'army's' interest to keep the blood warm and to make a fool of the public in the name of threat of an enemy which is not there.   You need to double the size of eyes to see the real threat.  Again with assortment of individuals especially in the officers corpse from different areas and strata of society - how can a cohesive interest group be formed??
I will aappeal to u sir -  use your writing for the good of the country and not for some temperory holds.
May Allah bless you
am
 
 
 
On 7 March 2011 17:25, <Meekalahmed2@aol.com> wrote:
 

The $110 Billion Question

When one looks across the Arab world today at the stunning spontaneous
democracy uprisings, it is impossible to not ask: What are we doing spending
$110 billion this year supporting corrupt and unpopular regimes in
Afghanistan and Pakistan that are almost identical to the governments we're
applauding the Arab people for overthrowing?

Ever since 9/11, the West has hoped for a war of ideas within the Muslim
world that would feature an internal challenge to the violent radical Islamic
ideology of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. That contest, though, never
really materialized because the regimes we counted on to promote it found
violent Muslim extremism a convenient foil, so they allowed it to persist.
Moreover, these corrupt, crony capitalist Arab regimes were hardly the ideal
carriers for an alternative to bin Ladenism. To the contrary, it was their
abusive behavior and vicious suffocation of any kind of independent moderate
centrist parties that fueled the extremism even more.
Now the people themselves have taken down those regimes in Egypt and
Tunisia, and they're rattling the ones in Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, Oman and Iran.
They are not doing it for us, or to answer bin Laden. They are doing it by
themselves for themselves — because they want their freedom and to control
their own destinies. But in doing so they have created a hugely powerful,
modernizing challenge to bin Ladenism, which is why Al Qaeda today is
tongue-tied. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
Al Qaeda's answer to modern-day autocracy was its version of the
seventh-century Caliphate. But the people — from Tunisia to Yemen — have come up
with their own answer to violent extremism and the abusive regimes we've been
propping up. It's called democracy. They have a long way to go to lock it
in. It may yet be hijacked by religious forces. But, for now, it is clear
that the majority wants to build a future in the 21st century, not the
seventh.
In other words, the Arab peoples have done for free, on their own and for
their own reasons, everything that we were paying their regimes to do in the
"war on terrorism" but they never did.
And that brings me back to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Last October,
Transparency International rated the regime of President Hamid Karzai in
Afghanistan as the second most corrupt in the world after Somalia's. That is the
Afghan regime we will spend more than $110 billion in 2011 to support.
And tell me that Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, which dominates
Pakistani politics, isn't the twin of Hosni Mubarak's security service.
Pakistan's military leaders play the same game Mubarak played with us for years.
First, they whisper in our ears: "Psst, without us, the radical Islamists
will rule. So we may not be perfect, but we're the only thing standing in
the way of the devil." In reality, though, they are nurturing the devil. The
ISI is long alleged to have been fostering anti-Indian radical Muslim
groups and masterminding the Afghan Taliban.
Apart from radical Islam, the other pretext the Pakistani military uses for
its inordinate grip on power is the external enemy. Just as Arab regimes
used the conflict with Israel for years to keep their people distracted and
to justify huge military budgets, Pakistan's ISI tells itself, the
Pakistani people and us that it can't stop sponsoring proxies in Afghanistan
because of the "threat" from India.
Here's a secret: India is not going to invade Pakistan. It is an utterly
bogus argument. India wants to focus on its own development, not owning
Pakistan's problems. India has the second-largest Muslim population on the
planet, more even than Pakistan. And while Indian Muslims are not without their
economic and political grievances, they are, on the whole, integrated into
India's democracy because it is a democracy. There are no Indian Muslims in
Guantánamo Bay.
Finally, you did not need to dig very far in Egypt or Jordan to hear that
one reason for the rebellion in Egypt and protests in Jordan was the
in-your-face corruption and crony capitalism that everyone in the public knew
about.
That same kind of pillaging of assets — natural resources, development aid,
the meager savings of a million Kabul Bank depositors and crony contracts —
has fueled a similar anger against the regime in Afghanistan and u
ndermined our nation-building efforts there.
The truth is we can't do much to consolidate the democracy movements in
Egypt and Tunisia. They'll have to make it work themselves. But we could do
what we can, which is divert some of the $110 billion we're lavishing on the
Afghan regime and the Pakistani Army and use it for debt relief, schools
and scholarships to U.S. universities for young Egyptians and Tunisians who
had the courage to take down the very kind of regimes we're still holding up
in Kabul and Islamabad.
I know we can't just walk out of Afghanistan and Pakistan; there are good
people, too, in both places. But our involvement in these two countries —
150,000 troops to confront Al Qaeda — is totally out of proportion today with
our interests and out of all sync with our values. ,


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The $110 Billion Question

When one looks across the Arab world today at the stunning spontaneous
democracy uprisings, it is impossible to not ask: What are we doing spending
$110 billion this year supporting corrupt and unpopular regimes in
Afghanistan and Pakistan that are almost identical to the governments we're
applauding the Arab people for overthrowing?

Ever since 9/11, the West has hoped for a war of ideas within the Muslim
world that would feature an internal challenge to the violent radical Islamic
ideology of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. That contest, though, never
really materialized because the regimes we counted on to promote it found
violent Muslim extremism a convenient foil, so they allowed it to persist.
Moreover, these corrupt, crony capitalist Arab regimes were hardly the ideal
carriers for an alternative to bin Ladenism. To the contrary, it was their
abusive behavior and vicious suffocation of any kind of independent moderate
centrist parties that fueled the extremism even more.
Now the people themselves have taken down those regimes in Egypt and
Tunisia, and they're rattling the ones in Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, Oman and Iran.
They are not doing it for us, or to answer bin Laden. They are doing it by
themselves for themselves — because they want their freedom and to control
their own destinies. But in doing so they have created a hugely powerful,
modernizing challenge to bin Ladenism, which is why Al Qaeda today is
tongue-tied. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
Al Qaeda's answer to modern-day autocracy was its version of the
seventh-century Caliphate. But the people — from Tunisia to Yemen — have come up
with their own answer to violent extremism and the abusive regimes we've been
propping up. It's called democracy. They have a long way to go to lock it
in. It may yet be hijacked by religious forces. But, for now, it is clear
that the majority wants to build a future in the 21st century, not the
seventh.
In other words, the Arab peoples have done for free, on their own and for
their own reasons, everything that we were paying their regimes to do in the
"war on terrorism" but they never did.
And that brings me back to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Last October,
Transparency International rated the regime of President Hamid Karzai in
Afghanistan as the second most corrupt in the world after Somalia's. That is the
Afghan regime we will spend more than $110 billion in 2011 to support.
And tell me that Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI, which dominates
Pakistani politics, isn't the twin of Hosni Mubarak's security service.
Pakistan's military leaders play the same game Mubarak played with us for years.
First, they whisper in our ears: "Psst, without us, the radical Islamists
will rule. So we may not be perfect, but we're the only thing standing in
the way of the devil." In reality, though, they are nurturing the devil. The
ISI is long alleged to have been fostering anti-Indian radical Muslim
groups and masterminding the Afghan Taliban.
Apart from radical Islam, the other pretext the Pakistani military uses for
its inordinate grip on power is the external enemy. Just as Arab regimes
used the conflict with Israel for years to keep their people distracted and
to justify huge military budgets, Pakistan's ISI tells itself, the
Pakistani people and us that it can't stop sponsoring proxies in Afghanistan
because of the "threat" from India.
Here's a secret: India is not going to invade Pakistan. It is an utterly
bogus argument. India wants to focus on its own development, not owning
Pakistan's problems. India has the second-largest Muslim population on the
planet, more even than Pakistan. And while Indian Muslims are not without their
economic and political grievances, they are, on the whole, integrated into
India's democracy because it is a democracy. There are no Indian Muslims in
Guantánamo Bay.
Finally, you did not need to dig very far in Egypt or Jordan to hear that
one reason for the rebellion in Egypt and protests in Jordan was the
in-your-face corruption and crony capitalism that everyone in the public knew
about.
That same kind of pillaging of assets — natural resources, development aid,
the meager savings of a million Kabul Bank depositors and crony contracts —
has fueled a similar anger against the regime in Afghanistan and u
ndermined our nation-building efforts there.
The truth is we can't do much to consolidate the democracy movements in
Egypt and Tunisia. They'll have to make it work themselves. But we could do
what we can, which is divert some of the $110 billion we're lavishing on the
Afghan regime and the Pakistani Army and use it for debt relief, schools
and scholarships to U.S. universities for young Egyptians and Tunisians who
had the courage to take down the very kind of regimes we're still holding up
in Kabul and Islamabad.
I know we can't just walk out of Afghanistan and Pakistan; there are good
people, too, in both places. But our involvement in these two countries —
150,000 troops to confront Al Qaeda — is totally out of proportion today with
our interests and out of all sync with our values. ,

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